HAHA, It's The Wis!

Good to know he's still playing EVE.

I have nothing against The Wis, or his like, but CCP please nerf hisec so ISBOXERS can't affect the EVE economy like this.

All mining should become a mini-game.

Because if 96 players were playing, they'd all get a share of the profit.

In this case, only one person gains an advantage (to the detriment of non multiboxing miners).

I only see 50 of his fleet in that picture.. Where are the other 47?

Someone should just repeatedly wardec him so he constantly has to change corp on every one of his many alts..

Ah pants i did wonder, didn't recognise the corp tag..

In that case..

I'll throw a couple disco boats at this if anyone else will?

If you don't understand how producing 96n objects for the price of 1 "hurts" the economy,

Look at the price of White Glaze. You guys realize most of the hi-sec White Glaze is mined by massive multibox bot fleets, right?

Of course it hurts the economy. Look at ore prices over time. The supply is too massive, mainly due to stupid things like 95 person bot fleets.

This is the disservice the barge EHP buff has done to the EVE community. Notice how all of the mackinaws are alive and stealing all of that ice from the poor newbie ice miners. Think of the newbies, its time to revert the barge EHP buff.

It's like you don't believe the procurer even exists.

Then don't fit the ice harvester upgrades. You now have sufficient GP/CPU and two extra low slots to contribute to the tank.

Hulk fit
Damage Control II
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I

Small Shield Extender II
Small Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Modulated Strip Miner II,Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II,Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II,Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

You were saying?

Don't scoff at the smalls, they add 3kEHP against hybrid.

Dave, you need to smile more.

OK. I'll complain about the Nereus's mining yield. After all, the hulk's strength in yield isn't justification for the Nereys's glaring flaw, right?

Just as the hulk isn't a tanking ship.

1 guy sitting in his skidmarked underwear in his mom's basement, using a third party program to log in his 97 accounts and then undock his 97 accounts to go drain an entire belt in record time is exceedingly different from 97 players doing the same thing.

Allow me to count the ways....

1) No herding cats. This alone could be argued to be more than enough difference.
2) When 97 guys all get together to drain belts in record time, they're going to each want to get some compensation. When 1 guy multiboxes 97 accounts, it is very likely that 96 of those accounts aren't getting a goddamn penny. Therefore, there is no distribution of wealth.
3) The "emergent gameplay" of awoxing? The risk of that occurring is significantly reduced, yet the payout is disproportionately high. What ever happened to "No Risk. No Isk"?
4) 97 guys will not all be cycling at the exact same time, there will be some variation to it. Someone might need to go AFK for what they assume will be 45 seconds which turns into 45 minutes, this impacts the yield of the fleet (albeit in a minor way, though potentially moreso depending on how attentive you can keep them all).
5) MMO means "Massively MULTIPLAYER Online" not "Massively MULTIACCOUNT Online".

Where are the guys who used to rail against lone high-sec miners saying that they're "not playing the game as intended, it is a MMO, not an Online Singleplayer game and that is why it is ok for me to gank them, to force them to interact with other players in the MMO". Multiboxing totally turns that on its head. Why should I bother interacting with anyone else if I can muster my own 100 man fleet and go do whatever the hell I damn well please? It removes the social aspect of the game. Throw the adages "Friends are OP" and "Teamwork is OP" right out the ******* window and just accept that multiboxing is a whitewash facade for covering that Eve has become P2W.

Aye. The hulk's weakness is it's weak tank.

So I'm guessing you think that the hulk should lose a couple of mids in light of the fact it wouldn't be able to fit medium size shield mods without sacrificing some harvesters?

Actually, a mid-slot removal may well be necessary. Combined with a PG increase of ~8-10, you could fit a med shield extender, along with the rest of the tank. Even without a 4th mid slot however, you could still fit 4kEHP more than now. The compensation would come from your suggested native tank nerf.

That's why I'm questioning the presence of 4 mids. On a ship who's tank is meant to suck, why have them? Aside from tank (which, is very difficult to fit on a hulk), is there any point in having so many?

What would you use the 4 mids for, if you have a better PG and/or CPU?

I lost you when you started claiming that ice mining yield fun.

It seems like a practicle way to make enough ISK to live off EVE RMTing.